Ditch Dairy, Embrace Health: Dr. Tim Teel's Holistic Healthcare Revolution

Lindsaya (00:01.237)
Welcome, everybody. Welcome to another episode, another brilliant opportunity. I say that because, oh, because of my company, who I am going to be able to keep company with during this episode. Welcome to another episode of The Wellness Warrior Collective. We are so grateful to have you tuning in, listening, and excited to amplify The Wellness Warrior within you. And today, my guest is none other than Dr. Tim Teal. I had the great pleasure of meeting him. We were both at a signature talk where we were learning how to bring our story.

forward because as you are going to hear, his story is profound. He has been in the medical model as a doctor for many years. I'm going to let him tell you more about that. And he has moved his practice because he believes so wholeheartedly in our holistic and healing capabilities. And so that is now his mission. And that is how he is changing the world, how he is saving lives, how he is making an incredible impact. And when I stood up and told a bit of my story, he came over and said, I am meant to meet you. And I immediately felt that connection too. I knew our

community would be better by meeting him and being able to learn and glean wisdom from his experience and all that he has been able to accomplish both medically and in this holistic realm. And so Dr. Tim Teal, thank you so much for coming to the Wellness Warrior Collective podcast. I would love for you to tell everyone a little bit about you so that they come to know you because we have a couple of episodes planned and we're going to be able to address this holistic and

holistic and healing modalities. Well, we may not cover all of them, but we're going to attack more of them systematically as we bring forth real hope for healing to humanity. So please, by all means, introduce yourself. And again, thank you for coming.

Tim Teel (01:46.675)
Oh, Lindsay, thank you so much for, you know, for just letting me be a part of what it is that you do. And you're exactly right. When I heard you talk at that, at that conference, I'm like, that chick I got to talk to. And it was so, I mean, it was so vividly obvious, like, listen, we got to have a conversation and not and I heard you talk, you heard me talk. We're like, oh, yeah, we got to sit down and chat some more. So we did.

Lindsaya (02:10.877)
We grabbed lunch. We actually grabbed lunch. We were like, lunch date tomorrow. It was a lunch for everybody, by the way. We all were eating together, but Tim and I were like, we're sitting by each other so we can brainstorm.

Tim Teel (02:21.802)
that we can't. But no, I spent 20 years in medicine. I went to medical school actually later in life, mostly because I wanted to learn more about my own body and my own healing. And I had a really weird experience when I was a kid. I was eight years old. I used to sit on my parents' chairs.

living room floor. I think it was a 1968 set of Encyclopedia Britannica, they were big green and white ones. I used to sit there and page from hours at a time. And they had the plastic pages that one system was laid on top of another, the bones and the muscles and the vessels and nerves and all the rest of the stuff. And my parents will tell you, I wore that stupid thing out looking at that. And one day, it was around Christmas time,

we were in the process of doing some remodeling on my parents' house. And there was a chimney cap. There was a steel chimney cap that was sitting in front of the two of us. And my sister and I were looking at a Sears catalog, looking at toys and stuff. And she turned the page. And I reached across that book because I didn't want her to turn the page. And I drug my hand across that one of the steel fins.

and on that chimney cap and it tore my finger, almost tore my finger completely off, okay? And it was so weird because I'm sitting here looking at my finger and I still got the scar. I'm looking at my finger and the first thing that crossed my mind was, gee, I hope I can still operate. I'm like, where the heck did that come from? I'm eight years old for crying out loud. It was the weirdest thing. And I'm like.

That was my first experience of saying, this life isn't exactly what we think it is. I mean, it really isn't. And here, 20 some odd years later, I find myself going to medical school because I was still fascinated. I was at a point in my life back then that, listen, you don't know where you're going, you don't know what you're doing, you're frustrated. Follow your passion.

Tim Teel (04:39.942)
And one of the things that I've always been passionate my whole life was trying to understand these bodies. And I suffered with all kinds of crap with my health that my family didn't suffer with. They were treating me for migraines when I was in second grade, second grade, for crying out loud. After I got into medical school, I realized how close I was to losing my colon to inflammatory bowel disease. And I'm like, holy.

Lindsaya (04:57.565)
Me too, me too.

Tim Teel (05:08.414)
I was sick, man. I was sick. And when I was 23 years old, I got turned on to a book called Fit for Life. People maybe have heard of it. It changed my life completely. I mean, it completely changed my life. It didn't solve all the headache problems, but they got better. It solved a lot of gut problems for me. I'm like, man, this is really cool. I've got to learn some more about this. I wound up in DO school, osteopathic medicine.

because it really appealed to me that the philosophy of osteopathic medicine was that a body's natural tendency is toward good health. And it's our job as physicians to remove some of those barriers. Well, that was the philosophy from the 1880s, okay? And in the 1950s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, the DOs figured out, oh, well, that really doesn't pay the bills, so it's time for us to start writing more prescriptions and learning how to do surgeries and all the rest of that stuff.

So the character of what I bought into was not exactly what I got. And as I got out of medical school residency and all the rest of that stuff, I found out there's a lot of problems that we are tasked with attempting to solve that medicine, the pharmaceuticals that we throw at these things, it kind of hurts, helps, kind of gets things a little bit better.

It doesn't completely solve the problem. And the problem that walked in my door, I was an ear, nose, and throat physician. I'm board certified ear, nose, and throat guy. 50% of the new patients that I saw, adult new patients, they had the same complaint over and over and over again. Ah, I feel like I got something stuck in my throat. I got a cough that won't go away. I'm scared to death. I got cancer. I don't know what's going on. Nobody, everybody's throwing all kinds of pills at me and nothing goes, nothing seems to work. And I saw these patients for years.

And we always treat them for reflux and give them pills. And sometimes it works, and most of the time it didn't. And I'm like, there's gotta be a better solution out there. And so I started reading some more, and most of it wasn't in medicine. It was mostly people outside of medicine that were saying, hey, listen, there's a lot of foods out there that just irritate the fire out of our immune system. And so I started taking some of those things away from my patients and saying, listen,

Tim Teel (07:31.474)
hasn't worked, so let's try this." And most of them were like, but I like my soda pop and I like my soda pop. And I'm like, listen, it's not forever. Just do it for a month and see how it goes. And boom, all of a sudden we started having all kinds of success, just pulling these different food products away from people. And then I tell them, once we got the problem solved, I tell them, go back and do it again. And boom, immediately the problems would come right back.

Lindsaya (07:37.725)
Hehehehe

Tim Teel (08:00.482)
Holy crap, they didn't teach me this stuff in medical school. And not only that, but some of the medicines that we use cause some really terrible reactions. I mean, I was diagnosing Steven Johnson reactions all over the place because I was thinking outside the box and saying, hey, listen, some else isn't right. I mean, I had people coming to me from all over the place saying, you're getting a reputation out there for being the...

for being the investigator that figures things out. And sure enough, we were finding if you keep digging and digging and digging, oh, there's about four different medications here that will cause these kinds of reactions, we start pulling away, boom, problems go away. They start taking the medicines again, boom, comes right back. Is that bench research? No, it's just common sense for crying out loud. And what happened, and then it happened to me.

Cause no, cause I'm, I'm a cheese guy, man. No, it's like, I love cheese.

Lindsaya (08:58.721)
Tim, I want to say this because people know this about me in our community and I want you to hear it out of my mouth because it's literally what I used to say. I used to say, I will give up my cheese when I go to God. Swear, I swear, I was that married to it. I was that married to it.

Tim Teel (09:11.974)
Exactly. Hey, I love cheese. I love cheese so much. I married a girl named Brie named one of my kids, Jack. And the other one came within a frog here being named Colby. You think I don't like cheese? I am not kidding. I love cheese. And then it then it freaking happened to me. And I'm like, I got a cough that won't go away. I got a feeling I got something stuck in my throat all the time. I'm like, crap. Oh, I'm gonna have to take my own dadgum medicine here. And I gave up the cheese.

Lindsaya (09:23.129)
I'm sorry.

I believe it.

Tim Teel (09:40.35)
I was eating cheese two or three times a day. I mean, I love it. It is great product, tastes wonderful.

The cough went away and a tickle in my throat went away. And I'm like, oh. And so I started eating again just to see what would happen came right back. And I'm like, crap, I can't live like this. So I gave it up. I mean, I just flat gave it up. Well, over the next six months, I lost like 30 pounds without trying.

and the colds that I was getting about every three weeks. I figure it was just because of what I'm doing. I mean, I'm up in people's faces all the time. They're coughing and sneezing and hacking at my face. Like, yeah, it's just part of the job. No, it wasn't part of the job. I went a year without having a cold from every three weeks to once a year? I went a year. Well, I go to digging again and come to find out there are some proteins in milk.

that cause secretory IgA, which is the immunoglobulins that we have in our mucus membranes, our ears, our nose, our throat, our genitor urinary tract, or GI tract. That particular protein is called APOA1. It causes those immunoglobulins to stick together and coagulate, and they don't work. We've known for years that little kids that we take tonsils out of and their parents give them a whole bunch of ice cream and all that stuff, their mucus gets...

really, or saliva gets really, really thick and hard to handle. And now we know why. It was our friggin' secretory IGA that was protecting them from disease that was getting all stuck together and it doesn't friggin' work. So you take that away and boom, all of a sudden, these kids stop getting sick. I mean, I had, and so I started teaching my pediatric patients, or the families actually.

Tim Teel (11:31.762)
You know, these people would come to me and say, hey, you know, this kid needs a set of tubes, got ear infections, so don't quit. The ears are full of goo. He can't hear. He's not doing well in school. Kid needs a set of tubes. I'm like, I signed him up for a set of tubes. And then four days later, these people call me back and they say, we can't do this. I'm like, what do you mean we can't do this? They said the hospital wants $20,000 on top of the paltry amount of money that my insurance will pay.

And people with good insurance were having to pay five grand and then the hospital was billing their insurance another $20,000. Do you know how much I get paid to do that procedure? Do you have any idea? $156. That's the payment these days. I'm like, okay, well, since they don't pay me to do that, let's try something different. Let's lose the soda pop. Let's lose the dairy products and see what happens. These people, this happened to me.

Lindsaya (12:05.501)
How much? Nope. 150.

Tim Teel (12:26.998)
Probably like six times people would schedule an appointment to come back in and shake my hand and say doc You changed our lives. I'm like, what do you mean? I said We don't need you anymore They said you solved the frickin problem and this happened over and people paid money at the front desk To come back and shake my hand and say thanks, dude. I'm like what?

They teach me this crap in medical school, but it gets better. It gets even better because I did it. I did this with my adult patients and, and the ones that have autoimmune disease came back and they're like, I'm doing better. And the ones with rheumatoid arthritis and my joints aren't hurting this bad. And, and I had one guy came back in, you know, he was a, he was a reflux patient. He was a typical Globus patient that, you know, that was, it had all kinds of medication thrown at him. Nothing worked.

And I find my ass, I scoped his throat and I, and my standard move was to take my scope and just touch the top of their esophagus, okay? We put the scope through their nose, bend it, look it down their throat. Sounds horrible, it's really no big deal, okay? But I would take, you know, look around and say, everything's fine, what about when I touch you right there? And they go, ah, that's it, what is that? Like it's nothing but the top of your esophagus and it's really ticked off and,

every single time I did that. I'd say, listen, there's four things that cause this problem. Some coming up, some going down. It's cancer or it's something that you're eating that your body's having a response to. And I said that fourth category is where we see most of the results. But it's not always the same thing. Sometimes it's chocolate, sometimes it's milk, sometimes it's peppermint, sometimes it's dairy products, sometimes it's soybean oil, sometimes it's wheat.

Sometimes it's corn, sometimes it's rice, but there's categories of things that we would find when we would pull those away, they got better. And I'd say, okay, now add it back in. Boom, they do it, they get worse. I'm like, ah, everybody understands now. But the side effects that were also happening was my patients were losing weight. And I had one guy in particular that came to me, he had the same problem. I asked him, I said, how much cheese milk, yogurt, ice cream are you eating? He's like, that.

Tim Teel (14:47.542)
That's all I eat, doc. I'm like, ugh, we got a problem here. But I said, if you're willing to play ball, then just go home and quit. Just find something else to eat for a while. He comes back two months later. I don't even recognize the guy. Don't even recognize, he lost 60 pounds without doing anything but just pulling the dairy out of his diet. I'm like, what? That's crazy.

And then we started seeing the whole thing over and over and over again, especially patients with autoimmune disease. Their autoimmune disease became a whole lot easier to manage. People with joint pain, their joints cleared up. Had one lady, it was amazing what happened to her. She was a globus patient. She had some other emotional issues as well.

But she came back to see me after two months. I've been seeing her for like six months. I finally got her convinced. Listen, you got to get off the dairy products and you got to get off the soda pop. She came back to see me two months later. She was gorgeous. I'm like, are you, are you the same? Her skin completely changed, cleared up. She was beautiful. I'm like, this is nuts. But no, but.

Lindsaya (16:00.787)
Yeah.

So I have a question for you really quick. So is this, and I really wanna call it in because I know we've got a lot of mamas that tune in too. So when people are hearing tubes in the ears, chronic ear infections, they're hearing autoimmune maybe for themselves or something their children or someone they know has been diagnosed with, would you say that one of the biggest things someone could do for themselves immediately would be to ditch the dairy?

adding soda pop in too, are those your top two? And what Okay.

Tim Teel (16:40.366)
Questionably, you know when you when I would sit down and talk to these sick kids or their mothers you know, I would Really Ask them all the time. I'm like how much cheese milk yogurt ice cream? Well, that's all the kid eats Well, there's the problem. Well, I can't get him to eat anything else well Herein lies the issue. No, we're up against a paradigm problem. Okay for years and years and years now

We've all been told by the biggest authorities on the planet, you need milk or your bones are gonna fall apart. Are you kidding me? There's 5,500 species of mammals on the planet, 5,500 of them. And there's only one, only one that continues to drink another animal's milk outside of infancy, and that's us. And if you look back historically, we've only been doing that for about 400 years, okay? Because before that, everybody knew milk is survival food for a baby and we don't have any way to store it, refrigerate it, any of the rest of that stuff.

So on the evolutionary scale, for as long as human beings have been on the planet, our milk consumption is like, well, we just started doing that yesterday. Okay. Because if we've been here for a hundred thousand years, 500,000 years, a million years, two million, four million years, you know, the amount of time that we've been drinking another animal's milk is just minuscule. And

And what I've come to the conclusion of, when you look at baby animals that are drinking milk, are they skinny or are they fat? Which one?

Lindsaya (18:09.097)
Well, I mean, yeah, babies are, they're fat on purpose.

Tim Teel (18:12.514)
They're fat. What happens when their mother, when you pull that milk out of their diet? What happens to those babies, those puppies, those kittens, the cows, the sheep? What happens to them? Do they gain weight or do they lose weight?

Lindsaya (18:25.757)
Well, when you pull it away, they're gonna all start to lean out.

Tim Teel (18:30.593)
Exactly right. So what do you think is going on?

Lindsaya (18:33.577)
Well, you know, I know what's going on. So for our audiences, for the entire audience that's listening, like we can all invite this in because tell us what is going on.

Tim Teel (18:42.955)
It has nothing to do with the sugar and the fat that's in that product. What it is, is the milk proteins incite an inflammatory response in our bodies that says store and that inflammatory response says not to store that energy as fat. When we store that energy as fat, it becomes a survival mechanism and helps us to survive even though like Bambi's mom gets whacked. Okay. If Bambi's got a little bit of fat on him.

He survives longer. He can find something else to eat. And once those baby mammals can find something else to eat, they don't need the milk anymore. Okay? We don't need the milk anymore. We certainly do not need to be irritated. The conclusion that I came to in my practice is that obesity and so many of these other chronic diseases that we have are not inflammatory conditions. They're the result of an inflammatory condition.

that is incited by two things, and two things that Western medicine doesn't even like to talk about. And one of them is food, and the other is toxic emotions. And especially, and eventually we'll talk about autoimmune disease. We don't even like to talk about any of that stuff in Western medicine. That's a part of who we are. The food we eat and the thoughts we think are so much more powerful than we have ever imagined. And we're...

Lindsaya (19:56.949)
Hehehehe

Lindsaya (20:00.754)
Yeah.

Tim Teel (20:07.894)
we're Western medicine to address that stuff, 90% of the problems that we get paid to manage in Western medicine wouldn't even exist. Here's what's really disturbing about it all. In 2004, I was sitting in medical school. The guy that taught me pathology, he's a freaking genius, by the way. He's an incredible teacher and taught me so much about the human psyche and how we learn.

But he admitted in 2004 that we know that heart disease is a reversible condition. Even advanced heart disease is a reversible condition. He said the guy that did that research proved it beyond any reasonable doubt. But he said, nobody's gonna eat like that. Nobody's gonna eat like that. Well, they certainly won't if we don't tell them about it, will they? And then,

Lindsaya (21:02.122)
And that's what we're here to do, right?

Tim Teel (21:05.418)
medicine guilty of the sin of omission. If you don't teach people about all this stuff, then they most certainly will not as long as you remain the standard of care and you remain the voice of what's reasonable. Listen, what I learned in medicine is that number one, it's a 17 trillion

Tim Teel (21:34.754)
anything, and I mean anything that threatens anybody's profits in there, guess what? They'll kick your ass out and you can starve to death. Okay? And I know because I was blacklisted in at least five states and I think maybe six, I'm not sure, for addressing patient safety issues in the state of Oklahoma. Okay? And I mean, I got fired and could not find a job in the state of Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas.

Arkansas and southwest Missouri. Now, I eventually wound up in private practice in Texas, but the problem is in private practice, number one, they don't pay us. We're the flip anymore. And number two, if you become the guy who starts solving problems that other people are being paid to manage, you become really unpopular with your practice group. And I was. And that's exactly what happened. I finally said, you know what? Back with us.

I'm gonna go teach what I know in my heart of hearts. What I am responsible for at the end of my life is telling the dadgum truth. And the dadgum truth about it is 90% of the problems that we manage in healthcare are 100% resolvable, preventable, we don't need to throw drugs at all this crap. That was 20th century, 20th century moved us forward. 21st century is...

what exactly what you're doing on this website and in lots and lots of other places just like it, the real advancement in medicine is not happening in medicine. They are addicted to the money, okay? And the money is what keeps us there. Does that mean that everything in Western medicine is no good?

Lindsaya (23:06.259)
Ugh!

Tim Teel (23:12.638)
No, that's not true at all. We do trauma, we kick ass at trauma, man. And the only reason we kick ass at trauma is because we've been waging incredible wars for the last hundred years on all kinds of people doing all kinds of incredible damage to people. Now we know how to put them back together and we can do an amazing job of it. This is not to our credit, all right? No, but we're really good at it, okay? You got a broken bone, yeah, you need a doctor. You got a bullet, you got a stab wound, whatever. Yeah, we shouldn't stop and meditate, although that's not going to hurt you.

Lindsaya (23:14.081)
Right.

Lindsaya (23:20.757)
Yeah.

Lindsaya (23:32.147)
Yeah.

Tim Teel (23:40.854)
But that's not going to be the solution. The solution is out, stop the bleeding. Okay. But that's.

Lindsaya (23:42.686)
Right.

Oh, I mean, go ahead, finish that thought. And then I feel as though this is like, we have hit the juice and I'm so excited for what we're gonna be talking about too in the future. So go ahead, finish your thought. I didn't mean to interrupt you.

Tim Teel (23:53.83)
Yeah, 90% of the problems, 90% of the problems that we work on in medicine, that no, that we're just, these are chronic diseases. Yeah, they're chronic because of the choices that we make. And it's our job, it's your job, it's my job to start teaching people not only to make different choices, but how to use our hearts and our minds to control these fantastic bodies of ours. And we got a heck of a lot more control over them than we have ever dreamed.

Lindsaya (24:08.065)
Hmm.

Tim Teel (24:24.216)
And that's what you teach every dadgum day. It's what I teach too. Okay, so let's talk some more

Lindsaya (24:30.125)
I love it, I love it you guys. Okay, a couple and you're gonna see key takeaways too. Dr. Tim Teal.

Thank you, thank you. We heard about the medical model, how this has moved because he was healing people, how it has moved him into a holistic healthcare practice where he is now part of the healing. We got to hear about ditching the dairy and the importance and how that is so inflammatory. Our next episode that we're gonna be discussing, so stay tuned, because we are coming up with another episode about autoimmune with Dr. Teal, because healing is what we know we're capable of doing.

And that's what we're here to do with the Wellness Warrior Collective. So Dr. Tim Teal, thank you, thank you. And we'll look forward to talking to you again in the future. And for all of you listeners, stay tuned. We've got lots of beautiful things continuing to come up with every episode. Make sure, if you have not already joined our Facebook group, we would love to have you. Well Join the Facebook group. You'll be able to have access to more of our healing modalities, the resources that we find,

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speaking on stage, whether it be in the chat or with your beautiful voice. And so with that, we are going to end this episode with a deep amount of gratitude to both Dr. Tim Teal for bringing his incredible wisdom and for you for tuning in and choosing this kind of program to continue to amplify the Wellness Warrior within you. Until next time Wellness Warriors, we're excited to sit alongside of you. Let's keep going!